@Dang-girl, extreme emphasis on a shared religious life although it was said "I dont care if we dont believe in the same stuff".
Posts made by Xandoré_BG
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RE: What made you suddenly lose interest to someone you were pursuing?
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RE: if you were dating someone and found out they were your very distant cousin, would you continue dating them?
I mean, aren't we all VERY distant cousins anyways @Quatre ?
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RE: Suggest me for my next drawing.
These drawing are sick dude. good job
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RE: How to mute users on TWS VOICE CHAT
@Rosy-Posey only for yourself. this is a "work around", but I think in the future there will be moderators there to ban spammers.
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
I just ask you to consider that if something walks like a duck, behaves like a duck, sounds like a duck and looks like a duck, The most logical and pragmatic line of thought is to first consider it a duck, then later, giving time and a deeper analysis, determine if it is or not, but for all practical reason, it's a duck.
I know this is logical falacy 101, but let's say that if something's goes through the effort or does naturally to look like a duck, you wouldn't be blamed to consider it one. And the chances of it actually being a duck is far greater then anything else. That's what I tried to say with this "falacious" analogy
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
I cannot judge that, so I will not.
but to help him see the world from another one's point of view. And tws actually is a good place to do just that.you dont need to judge, I just ask you to consider that if something walks like a duck, behaves like a duck, sounds like a duck and looks like a duck, The most logical and pragmatic line of thought is to first consider it a duck, then later, giving time and a deeper analysis, determine if it is or not, but for all practical reason, it's a duck. But I will stop talking about our polish, gone acquaintance. Judging implies conviction. I was pointing out the reason why I consider him an white supremacist. highly personal view, but one that is not without its merits.
It is hard to get another point of view when you dont want to. possible, but hard, and his actions here werent one of open mindness and receptiveness to different opinions, another thing that makes that shift in view strenuosly difficult.
Because in the end, I still think above all stands morality. If people choose to be bought, if they choose evil, there will also be an evil leader. If they choose good – and they need prophets and reasonable thinkers to be beacons of light to orient themselves toward them – then and only then will the results also be good. And... it doesn't matter wether you are smart or not: if you are smarter you are just capable of more sophisticated evil and more sophisticated good. The results will be the same: evil breeds evil, good breeds good. We need to do good, we need to bring reason, we need to bring true free speech back to the place at the top, where it never was
Smartness unlock the most powerfull trick any men can have. Deceitfullness. A skilled person in the art of deceit can easily make people see Right as Wrong and vice-versa. the world and all it's social, philosofical, moral, religious, traditional, political and Ideological structures are in the hands of Smart individuals. Who is to say they arent being deceitfull? a group of smart people that also could very well be just as deceitfull as the their conterparts? Truth is never easy to achieve, simply because it is buried so deep into the lies that we might never really know. We can Have faith we found truth, but... how would we know? Universal truths doesnt need studies. They simply are undeniable. we might not understand them, we might not like them, we might not agree with them, but regardless of all that, they simply are. Men has been trying to create truth since we first we learned how to be creative. the Smartest people creates the most simple truths, but men can't create truths. They simply are. Morality is a Men-made truth simply by the fact that there are and always have been many iterations of "moralities" often times opposed to each other. Who is capable of decerning the universal one, The undeniable one without being trapped in a nightmarish web of deceit and personal faith? And what give us the right to impose that personal faith onto others? That's what keeps me locked in a state of utter hopelessness toward the future. We are either being herded around by a very smart group of people imposing their own view on us, or in utter blindness. not in between.
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
@pe7erpark3r BUT, one last thing before my break. Yes, My emotions where getting the best of me for sure, but one thing I think he made quite clear throughout most of his discourse around here, which is... in a way, some sort of reason for my association of him with Nazism. He is a White supremacist. He makes sure to make that one pretty clear. He does believe black and brown people are inferior (especially if they are female). You can clearly see that in some instances where he interacted with these people, thus leading me to believe he is indeed that, a white supremacist. Not sure how he thinks it would be the appropriated way to deal with inferior people, but I cant really picture him, at this moment, giving them a fair chance.
Free speech is not a two way street in the sense you make it out to be. Free speech does not give the unreasonable a platform. Quite in contrast it favors the reasonble, for only if you are reasonable yourself will you even be able to participate in the discussion. In a free discussion people will only listen to those who actually make sense.
This tho, I cant really say I agree 100%. once again, in an Ideal world where reason was a Common thing, that would be true. This world isnt really filled with people like you. Dude, I am not even half as reasonable as you and I still sound pretty reasonable most of the time compared with most people. It is most about the crowd then it is about the Preacher. Look around, and tell me if it doesnt look like there is a clear divide? Like, of course Reasonable people can spot and refute most of the Unreasonable people's speech, but does it seems like people are listening to reason? I really think we have opposing view on that simply by the fact of our different background. I will not speculate about yours (I dont like speculation either but I am prone to doing it because I am a work in progress towards being truly reasonable), But i will tell you about mine. Being a Brazilian and being around people from very different walks of life in a fairly mixed community, I can tell you one thing for sure: no matter who we are talking about, chances are they are looking the other way or simply too guillible to discern flaws in the logic of whoever they agree with. We are a brown country with a tradition of miscegenation, still we managed to elect a president with very worrying ties and discourses. I will provide a link with the most recent debacle and a good glimpse on the state my country is in Right now, so you understand why I said what I said about free-speech (which is not a real thing in here BTW)
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
@pe7erpark3r Fucking amazing dude. Legit, I am speechless. You certainly are an extremely reasonable guy. you actually made me despise that whole "shenenigan" I pulled of there. Let's just say I have some uncontrolled demons yet to come to ligth and that whole thing was written while I was going through one of those... "exorcisms"... as jokingly yet weirdly accuratly tend to call those events. You were right to worry about me. I wasnt really ok. As I am sure you are aware, I have been extremely on edge around this parts, lots of stupid dramas affecting in a way I didnt think would still be possible after all these years of "interneting". I need to take a break. From the internet (as I am sure you would imagine this isn't really the only place I hang around while surfing them webs). I am mentally spent from this sort of fear and hate-mongering enviroment.
You can clearly see I was being just as redical as Sillhoute, and yes, good on you for calling my BS about his "complexes and Projections". I was doing that myself through him. I projected everything I hate about myself in him. and that's no Speculation btw. I know and I admit I can be just as prejudicious and Aggresive as him (even tho I am slightly more educated on his demeanor on private sectors of this site, where he thought no one would see his discourse, still no reason for me to reciprocate ten-fold like I just did here)
As I said before, I have a shady, unlikable past, and I aint no saint. I am working on it though.
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
@pe7erpark3r, I would also like to share my thoughts regarding fighting violence with violence
I think this image is pretty unpleasant. But I rather watch this happens 1000 times over a mob linching of minorities. Or a tiki torch rally resulting in people getting ran over by one of those fellas. I rather see news of a shooting than news of another avoidable genocide.... For me it is all about net result. If violence can prevent senseless, unthinkable and maniacal violence from happening... Well... I guess the choice is pretty clear. In a ideal world, people would be reasonable and listen, but it is clear to me we are not living in a ideal world. Sadly. I rather have a conversation than an heated argument always. I would rather try to convince a extremist of his mistakes in logic than resorting to violence. But we all know how it is... Love is a precious resource and I choose to save mine for those that I find worthy.
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
@pe7erpark3r, you seem to be looking at this as some sort of big picture situation. I approached this as a way smaller picture. I will tell my line of thought here through an analogy. Maybe it will help in clearing out why a did what I did.
Imagine we are on a restaurant with a bunch of friends chatting and having a great time. The place is super busy and filled with all sort of different people. Then comes stomping in mister polish Nazi over there, and starts harassing everybody who is not a white christian in the joint. Then he comes to our table and start harassing our friends. Some call the staff of the place and hear things like "I am sorry but free speech and you could simply ignore him as well". Then they proceed to leave the place. We could spend the rest of the night debating him over why he is a fucking obnoxious moron, or a misguided young man. But that doesn't change the fact we are now alone, wasting our saliva on a guy that is clearly unwilling to talk. Then, we, tired from this whole pointlessly endeavors decide to leave the place as well. But then, something happens... Among the multitude of patrons of the restaurants, there were some that were also bothered by our mixed group of friends, but we're too insecure to say something... Now they start congratulating and talking to mister "Polish fascist" who got rid of the "scum" that were bothering them as well. When we all go back there, instead of one obnoxious scumbag, now we have three. We decide never to go there again. But then they start going on the same new place we choose to hang. We like diversity, so we choose a place filled with mixed people from different backgrounds, and that's the perfect recruiting ground for them, and they always end up recruiting one or two more sympathizer whenever we leave to avoid lowering to their level and keeping our moral high ground. Soon, they are outnumbering us and our mixed group of friends simply by the fact that most of our friends stopped going out for fear of running into them.
Now... If we, on the first time "Polish Himler" insulted our friends and the other patrons would have been decisive, firm, equally as harsh and aggressive as him, and gathered support from the other, non vocal patrons of the restaurant against him, and kicked him out of the place, we would still have a place to hang, friends to chat with on boring Wednesday's evening, and one less "radical" to deal with on our little favorite joint, as well as three or four "sympathizers of the polish extremist" rethinking if they are right simply by the fact that since they are too shy and insecure to expose their beliefs it means there is still room for a doubt, unlike our friend, mister "SS camp guard in the making" who were and probably will be for a very long time, completely possessed by his distorted world view.
I think, if you replace the group of friends with family members, the right choice becomes more easy to identify. Free speech is a two way street. Also, fire can burn both ways and he was a big proponent of "purifying" this place, so I am glad he was the one purged. And I didn't even said anything about he leaving this place prior to his pathetic attempt of leaving with the higher moral ground. I challenged him to a discussion, he left because he doesn't want to be opposed, he wants to be obeyed.
So, yeah, I am not a big proponent of pacifism to be honest, as I think the world would be a better place if instead of being patient and indirectly compliant to most of what we all can agree are bad individuals, we would simply give them a taste of their own medicine, or go even further a little bit and show him that difference between being good and being just.
PS: His last message showed clearly, at least to me, that he has some unresolved trauma regarding being cucked by a immigrant from a third world country because I think he is projecting so much it is undeniable he should seek some therapy. Shadow possession is not a funny business and has been shown to be one of the most dangerous psychological process ever, resulting in things like, you name it, Hitler, Stalin and Mao. So... If you are reading this mister "polish cuckhold", not every woman is like your last one, and not every third world country peasant will steal you girlfriend. This fetish can be cured by therapy, so does your complex. Seek help and live a better life, instead of being the first to die holding a fascist banner in the coming war.
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
@Rajeev2021 I see your point Rajeev. I agree with it. although I am not religious or profess faith in any particular deity, I am not atheist. I have a personal understanding of spirituality and faith, and I really think it helps lots of people to get through life with hope. I am against fanatism and stupidity, and that's why I made this post.
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
@Codius well... if by dropping to his level I managed to get him out of here, I'm fine with lowering my reputation around and being considered not as wise. I really dispise him so much I wouldn't mind losing some respect over it. He really made some good people around here miserable with his nonsense, and Banning him didn't work out, so I had to take things in my own hands.
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
@Codius Now you see the type of "christian" I was referencing in the original post, right? This poor excuse of a human being has been harassing, offending and Being a "holier than thou" type of prick for a couple of months now, spewing garbage from his fingertips in order to proove he is a true christian (more like a nazi IMO). SO I had to make this elaborate post about how these peoples are the worst type of humans beings alive simply because not only they make other peoples life miserable, But also Push people away from the word of Christ. This place is not majorly christian, at least I dont think so. He was given a bad example of what christians are, Since he goes around being the worst type of christian possible, the Cruzader Christian. SO.. yeah... hope that made it clear why I was super condescending and mean with my original post... I was trying to make him come out from the shadow of his hiding and show his true face.
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RE: An Open letter to TWS Religious Zealots (especially those who are more "active" around here and are extremely vocal about their beliefs)
@Silhouette oh no... The pussy ass master of them incels gave up before we started? So much for being clever and right eh? In need of backing ? I never thought you could go lower than before, this whole "if we were on a voat or gab I would destroy you" sounds like excuses for someone who is too dumb to realize he is not as smart as he thinks. You overestimate your intelligence bruh. You are actually quite predictable and dumb. Go find yourself a nice little "club" of people who agree with your dimwitted idea of religion and die quick. You are a waste of space and oxigen, not to mention food. Your ancestors would be ashamed of ever giving rise to such a useless white trash. Go away dude. Go with your tail between your legs like the coward you are. Also, I recommend a new religion for you... Have you ever thought about worshipping Ares? Seems more fitting for such a "warrior" like you... Oh, wait... I guess not even a dead God would find use for such a stupid incel like you... Oh well . Glad I hit my mark here. Your departure is most welcomed by 99% of this platform as I would assume not even them "horny guys" were fond of you. Not to mention the "peasants from the third world (me) and sluts (pretty much everyone who isn't a male human). Have a pretty desgracefull life out there bitch, hope death finds you quick.
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RE: please say bad think about me.....
You gave me sexual dream with you because of those girly pics of yours... That's a bad thing you did for me.
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RE: A proper goodbye.
My super special shoutout goes to @Thales_BG. He is one of the kindest, friendliest people I've ever met, period. He is a truly wonderful person with a very big heart, and I want everyone here to know that.
Well, I don't even know what to say to all this, but about this compliment, I think I will be taking a break from this place in order to keep myself from contradicting this statement. This place is indeed an awesome place full of diversity. But with this unlimited diversity, of course some people will be bent on ruining this environment. I need to accept that this place is going to feel like a little less interesting to me with your departure, but I feel like there is still people out here in need of a rescue from the hands of asl Guy's and troll, and to be shown what this place could be like (a place to met people that are legit interested in making friends and sharing stories).
I will not lie, if this was a "thanks have a nice life" type of goodbye, I think I would need a couple of months to recover from the sorrow, but since we are still in touch, the feel like I am ok.
So, yeah, I will be taking a break from all this because I ain't a kid anymore and I shouldn't behave like one, although I am extremely pissed off with some people around here, I will not be spending my time and sullying my name in order to feel like I managed to make them feel what I am feeling.
Also, for anybody wondering who was Sarah around here, she was one of the most interesting, smart and funny person to ever join this place. And her departure is a loss for the whole community in my humble opinion.
Fly safe Little magpie, hope you have fun out there.