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@pe7erpark3r BUT, one last thing before my break. Yes, My emotions where getting the best of me for sure, but one thing I think he made quite clear throughout most of his discourse around here, which is... in a way, some sort of reason for my association of him with Nazism. He is a White supremacist. He makes sure to make that one pretty clear. He does believe black and brown people are inferior (especially if they are female). You can clearly see that in some instances where he interacted with these people, thus leading me to believe he is indeed that, a white supremacist. Not sure how he thinks it would be the appropriated way to deal with inferior people, but I cant really picture him, at this moment, giving them a fair chance.

Free speech is not a two way street in the sense you make it out to be. Free speech does not give the unreasonable a platform. Quite in contrast it favors the reasonble, for only if you are reasonable yourself will you even be able to participate in the discussion. In a free discussion people will only listen to those who actually make sense.

This tho, I cant really say I agree 100%. once again, in an Ideal world where reason was a Common thing, that would be true. This world isnt really filled with people like you. Dude, I am not even half as reasonable as you and I still sound pretty reasonable most of the time compared with most people. It is most about the crowd then it is about the Preacher. Look around, and tell me if it doesnt look like there is a clear divide? Like, of course Reasonable people can spot and refute most of the Unreasonable people's speech, but does it seems like people are listening to reason? I really think we have opposing view on that simply by the fact of our different background. I will not speculate about yours (I dont like speculation either but I am prone to doing it because I am a work in progress towards being truly reasonable), But i will tell you about mine. Being a Brazilian and being around people from very different walks of life in a fairly mixed community, I can tell you one thing for sure: no matter who we are talking about, chances are they are looking the other way or simply too guillible to discern flaws in the logic of whoever they agree with. We are a brown country with a tradition of miscegenation, still we managed to elect a president with very worrying ties and discourses. I will provide a link with the most recent debacle and a good glimpse on the state my country is in Right now, so you understand why I said what I said about free-speech (which is not a real thing in here BTW)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-51149224

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I cannot judge that, so I will not.
but to help him see the world from another one's point of view. And tws actually is a good place to do just that.

you dont need to judge, I just ask you to consider that if something walks like a duck, behaves like a duck, sounds like a duck and looks like a duck, The most logical and pragmatic line of thought is to first consider it a duck, then later, giving time and a deeper analysis, determine if it is or not, but for all practical reason, it's a duck. But I will stop talking about our polish, gone acquaintance. Judging implies conviction. I was pointing out the reason why I consider him an white supremacist. highly personal view, but one that is not without its merits.

It is hard to get another point of view when you dont want to. possible, but hard, and his actions here werent one of open mindness and receptiveness to different opinions, another thing that makes that shift in view strenuosly difficult.

Because in the end, I still think above all stands morality. If people choose to be bought, if they choose evil, there will also be an evil leader. If they choose good – and they need prophets and reasonable thinkers to be beacons of light to orient themselves toward them – then and only then will the results also be good. And... it doesn't matter wether you are smart or not: if you are smarter you are just capable of more sophisticated evil and more sophisticated good. The results will be the same: evil breeds evil, good breeds good. We need to do good, we need to bring reason, we need to bring true free speech back to the place at the top, where it never was

Smartness unlock the most powerfull trick any men can have. Deceitfullness. A skilled person in the art of deceit can easily make people see Right as Wrong and vice-versa. the world and all it's social, philosofical, moral, religious, traditional, political and Ideological structures are in the hands of Smart individuals. Who is to say they arent being deceitfull? a group of smart people that also could very well be just as deceitfull as the their conterparts? Truth is never easy to achieve, simply because it is buried so deep into the lies that we might never really know. We can Have faith we found truth, but... how would we know? Universal truths doesnt need studies. They simply are undeniable. we might not understand them, we might not like them, we might not agree with them, but regardless of all that, they simply are. Men has been trying to create truth since we first we learned how to be creative. the Smartest people creates the most simple truths, but men can't create truths. They simply are. Morality is a Men-made truth simply by the fact that there are and always have been many iterations of "moralities" often times opposed to each other. Who is capable of decerning the universal one, The undeniable one without being trapped in a nightmarish web of deceit and personal faith? And what give us the right to impose that personal faith onto others? That's what keeps me locked in a state of utter hopelessness toward the future. We are either being herded around by a very smart group of people imposing their own view on us, or in utter blindness. not in between.