i definitely agree with you!
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Interesting! I'm glad i met you too.
Do you agree that "racism is taught??"
I TOTALLY AGREE
God Is Exists and Real
I agree. I agree
Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@sheapard in my eyes it is ok to agree to disagree. But to agree to disagree on evolution is like to agree to disagree that the holocaust happened
Without religion would people become more, less, or be equally morally corrupt?
im not a religious debater and im not an extremist ,i havent byhearted quran.
but the verses u have mentioned is like taking random lines from a book and reading it together to form a concept that favours the ideas in your mind.
its said quran is book to learn and not just read, learning means to understand to comprehend ,to think to reflect etc..u did not mention under which circumstances those verse were sent down to earth or as a solution to what problems,u did not do research as to why those line were revealed to prophet.
I'm an ex-muslim and i am not gonna take into consideration the suggestion that i took those quotes out of context. Get your quran and check for yourself. If you can't demonstrate that they're taken out of context then don't say that they are because i know full well that they are not taken out of context. Yes the quran says to read but as i have shown it also says to kill and it says that a lot of times.
secondly some of the verses u mentioned are not technically the right translations,u see im not an arab but it has come to my notice that few words they do have more than 2-3 meanings ,
Well good luck because i speak and read fluent Arabic since I'm Palestinian and was born in Syria.
im a muslim and u dont see me running behind you with a cross to crucify you,do you?
No but how does that change anything. If you are a true Muslim who agrees with the islamic law (Shariah) then in your view i should be killed and if you don't agree with the Shariah then you aren't in place to ne defending your religion since you don't even agree with it fully
most what people who call themselves muslims are doing around the world doesnot define islam,it just defines who they are not their religion.islam specifically says donot spread mischief in this world ,be respectful to elders and kind to the young and to be patient with women,donot harm women and children.
What about the verse i mentioned that says you should beat disobedient women
i dont know the exact verses saying all these but im sure a well read syrian arab like you must have come across these lines when u read through quran,now how many muslims do you see following these simple rules?
Many but you have to be pretty dolusional to only see those verses and not see all the verses i mentioned. My parents are muslim and they're pretty chill but my mom doesn't agree that a man should be able to have 4 wives and that a woman shouldn't along with a lot of other things in the quran and since they haven't followed the clear instructions of the shariah to kill apostates like me, i can say that they shouldn't be representing islam either since they don't agree with a lot of things in the quran
men always wanted power over everything,its the psychology of men,there are more number of conquerers who r men than women ,if you are kind enough to read through how women were treated pre islamic era,u know islam was a form of blessing to women..
You have to be fucking kidding me. The Shariah clearly says that women should cover themselves, that they are obliged to be accompanied by a man if they want to do any work, that a women should inherit half that of a man, you also have the right to beat them if they are disobedient and that they are unclean and unholy when they go through the natural biological processes of menstruation and that women are ignorant and that a womens testimony is worth half of a man's testimony in court.
God has created you with intelligence,you are one of the superior species to other organisms in the world in terms of intelligence in terms of understanding in terms of thinking and free will.
1st god didn't create humans. Why do you think so? Humans evolved from other species
2nd why are humans suddenly so special
3rd free will doesn't exist.
I'll just screenshot a mini debate i had on YouTube to explain why
if God wanted slaves he could have easily done that,but instead he gave you the power to think and free will,which means its solely upon you on how ur character is
As i have already explained, free will is an illusion but did i mention that islam supports slavery and having sex slaves wanna see the verses?
how ur behaviour is and how u act and react,quran and hadeeths are merely guides for us...a reference book when we want to know whats the best way to take care of a situation
The hadith and quran instruct muslims to kill homosexuals and apostates like me. Great advice 10/10
and again that was a solution for problems in 1400's,so modify the solution and not the core essence to fit into the solution for problems in 20th centuary.
You're welcome to think so but sadly it isn't like a group of shaikhs are deciding which verses are modern or not and all Muslims take their word for it. If god is all knowing then he should've predicted the future and wrote down in the quran the time span of the verses's taken in consideration
if u r someone who has watched games of thrones or outlanders or any series revolving around history,u will come to know how frequent child marraige was and how deterogating was the position of women and how sinful men were and how much safety women actually had while going anywhere alone or how some of them were treated even poorly than animals,so all the rules abt women who cant go anywhere without a mahram escorting her or how she has to cover her entire self or the system of marrying if u wanna have sex with her,the system of polygamy,all came in as an answer to the social problems that prevailed in the 1400's...which are also the problems in many many countries even now.
1st Muhammad fucking a 9 year old isn't excusable by saying that the times and culture were different. Couldn't god tell him that fucking a 9 year old is a bad idea? And child marriage is allowed by the shariah because Muhammad fucked a 9 year old. Oh fuck this
2nd No!!! There isn't any country where a women should be obliged to be accompanied by a mahram everywhere when she wants to do business. For example, Saudi Arabia is cancer and don't try to justify what they do to women
i live in a place comparitively has a very safe environment for females..so i go alone...i dress modestly non provoking but not entirely covered up...
my dad has only 1 wife thats my mom ..their parents also had one wife each..their parents parents also had one wife each.
my grandpas cousin has 2 wives because the first one was sterile she couldnt give birth so they mutually agreed on marrying another,because they wanted to have a baby who would carry on their family name.
Yeah but why can'ta women have multiple husbands. Answer:Sexism
now u might say there are things called adoption,in islam even if adoption is done u should notify the child that he or she is adopted..u cant grow them in oblivion,now anyone with a mind knows why thats the right thing to do..
u see i can go on and on and on the good reasons why i love islam and why i feel all the laws are valid ,,because for me a person who thinks and has free will islam is a guide book...to which i turn to when im in distress when i need an opinion or when i need a solution..and then i compare it with the centuary im in ...and i have a perfect solution for my problem.
1st free will doesn't exist as i have already explained
2nd "the good reasons why i love islam and why i feel all the laws are valid " cool. So you agree that apostates and homosexuals should be killed. 10/10
the flaw in my debate is that i havent presented any facts..this is because im a medical student and i have lost touch with studying islam in depth..all i do now is pray 5 times pay zakah take fasting and try my best to do no harm to others physically or mentally.
Very good. Keep it up.
so i dont think what i claim or say has the power to satisy you,so ill pray to Allah that you may be satisfied and all your doubts are cleared to you soon and that he may guide you into a better path.God bless!
Ok. I don't believe that there's a god but if he exists then he's welcome to prove it to me
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