Is god real? Your thoughts
So you believe that nobody plus nothing equals everything. 😂
Look at my profile pic. That's me 100% of the time whilst reading what you say. Where do you believe god came from? Oh right, nowhere. So you believe that something that came from nothing created everything. Sigh
On the other hand i do not know where everything came from but as physics shows it is physically possible for the whole universe to originate from nothing and there are many scientific books on the topic like "A universe from nothing" by Quantum Physicist lawrence Krauss, i do not know where the universe came from but as far as science has shown god comes as far as you can get to the last place of the possible origins of the universe.
Are you absolutely sure there is not god?
No just like i am not absolutely sure unicorns d't exist
Just because you can’t see something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Of course. I never said i don't believe in god because i can't see him. I said i don't believe in god because there is no good evidence to believe that he exists which can come in many many forms not just being able to see thingq, infact being able to see something isn't evidence that it exists, you have to repeatedly prove that no matter where, how, what, who you are you can always see the thing and repeat that a couple hundred to thousand times to make it actual scientific evidence.
You can’t see atoms but we all know it exist it’s the same thing with god.
No it is not. I'll repeat myself.
infact being able to see something isn't evidence that it exists, you have to repeatedly prove that no matter where, how, what, who you are you can always test the existence of the thing, recieve positive results and repeat that a couple hundred to thousand times to make it actual scientific evidence. There is that for atoms but not god.
In the light of the Big Bang that scientists think what mad the universe.
you have to repeatedly prove that no matter where, how, what, who you are you can always test the existence/remains that can be traced back to the existence of the thing, recieve positive results and repeat that a couple hundred to thousand times to make it actual scientific evidence. We know the big bang happened and how it happened by a complex tracing back of radiation and a srudy of the movement of the universe. Do we know what/if there was the thing (s) before the big bang but that doesn’t mean that you know, it means that for now, noone knows.
Is it reasonable to believe that no one created something out of nothing or someone like god created something out of nothing.
I'll just copy/paste what i already said with some edits
Where do you believe god came from? Oh right, nowhere. So you believe that something that came from nothing created everything. Sigh
On the other hand we might never know where the universe came from but in that case we are still not justified in believing made up things on faith but we should be at peace with our ignorance and limitations and even if we can't be at peace with our ignorance that still doesn’t give you the right to believe made up things on faith, for now we do not know where everything came from but as physics shows it is physically possible for the whole universe to originate from nothing and there are many scientific books on the topic like "A universe from nothing" by Quantum Physicist lawrence Krauss, i do not know where the universe came from but as far as science has shown god comes as far as you can get to the last place on the ranking of the possible origins of the universe.
Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?
@alwaysstranger I totally understand your concerns as someone who had questioned the same before.
You say evolution is a scientific fact then surely you haven't read the criticism. Okay, let me go by definition. First what is science? It is the study of the physical and natural worlds using theoretical models and data from experiments or observations. The keywords- experiments and observations. So tell me has any man or scientist 'observed' an ape turn into a man, like literally observed with his own eyes? Or are there any experiments where they have seen an ape turn into a man, again like literally seen with their naked eyes? I am not talking about taking old bones that were studied and 'deducing' it to be our great ancestors. Those bones may just be an evolved monkey of different stages. Nobody has seen them evolve into homo sapiens. Have they? So it over rules the very definition of science. Science is not deduction. It is observations and experimentations. And we cannot even afford to experiment the given theory now cause the apes are extinct beings. There are no facts. But then again im just a nobody student of science. I talk shit and make shit mistakes. But so does science, it makes mistakes too, its not perfect. A hundred theories were made and disproved, we just stick and study the latest theory until it is rejected and a new theory comes forth over ruling the previous. If you talk and state science, I should remind you that you keep that in mind.
As for your point of the moon being cut in two, that depends on your faith. And faith comes later, dont point that out if you have not yet believed in the book. It is like saying, Ghandi is a bad person because he smoked and used to shoplift and steal a few pennies, therefore he is a violent person.
As for the "the world was created in 6 days". So lets me ask you the meaning of 'day'. Day is defined as a 24 hour interval of time for earth to make a complete rotation of the axis. how do you take the '24hours is a day in earth' as meaning of the day when it is talking about the very creation of the same earth. You read between the lines, a day could also mean an era, or any eons.
And yes the big bang theory is true, only if you have understood it properly or it is your problem.
And about your points of islam being violent and sexist, i could blame your lack of knowledge. Quran is a book of literature and poetry. I bet you never understood any original books of Shakespeare because if you did you would at least understand a little of how to interpret things at least a little. And If you ever knew Arabic then only you should quote the words. Let me explain, arabic sentence are of two types, one you take the literal meaning and other is you a metaphor, or it is a mysterious figure of speech which can have a hundred meaning. And if you read the English translation of quran i say you are reading only the 20% of it. The rest 80% cannot be explained in English. So before you quote any verse and point it as wrong i say you study is thoroughly and understand, or you should learn Arabic properly.
It was like you were saying if I can't see it, it doesn't exist at all.
But coming to the homophobic part, i still have my doubts. I have a thing against homophobes too. Like, yes it is not their fault that they hold torches for the same sex. But now that doesn't mean i am saying the whole of islam is wrong just because they are homophobic. There are ups and downs to every thing. This is again just like saying Gandhi is a bad person because he smokes and yadda yadda.
Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
Yeah, a Simple modification that requires planning and execution that would require at least 200 hundred years.
Yes that's simple. 200 years is nothing compared to the future 1000 year old human lifespan.
For one, it doesn't have an atmosphere, then it's doesn't have a magnetic field and also, the temperature variation is too high. We can set up base stations on mars but we won't be able to make it into a habitual planet.
You said it. It will take around 200-300 years. That's nothing
K. I didn't but sure
Why are you adamant about disagreeing with me? Just take a look and see if you have used the word "likely"?
I said i agreed without looking. Still didn't look
You made the statement. You have the burden of proof to say that they're likely
here you go,
K you got me here
and for the dystopian, I don't have to present a proof. It's been the way all these years. It's likely to happen again.
Then again, these things are probable. Are you sure that they won't happen? I used to the word "What if" to illustrate such themes which shows that they are not confirmed to happen but do have a chance to happen.
Didn't i say " X will happen,.... Y will happen and L will happen ASLONG AS NOTHING HORRIBLY BAD HAPPENS before X date" like a hundred times
The population on mars won't be big enough for such a possibility anyways. Would it
One, if the population is big enough then that means it is not a good option.
Not true. It is a good place to survive if something bad happens on earth
Two, in case of a small number of people leaving the planet, who do you think is more likely to be allowed to survive. Intelligent people; bullshit.
Rich and intelligent people. Yes
What is that supposed to mean. The only thing holding back things like stem cell research is religion. If genetic modification will be held back by superstition it will be religious superstition. In either case i don't know what anti-vaxxers have to do with this
In case you didn't understand, I presented the "Anti-vaxxers" as a proof to show that people can oppose useful things without basing it on religion
Yeh but anti-vaxxers are rare, right. When it comes to big outcry against something like stem cell research it's always religious people
and why do you think that stem cell therapy is held back by religion?
Because it is. It is widely known that it is you can't oppose me on this one
Do you have any proof to offer?
Do i really have to. This can't be the first time you've heard about religious people opposing embryonic or normal stem cell research. I'm not going to provide statistics you go do your homework. Here's a simple explanation of what's happening
Atheist on the topic:
I can't find anything to show that religion is a responsible for hold back stem cell research.
Search better. This is too widely known for you not to know this
If anything and everything become legal for 24hours what will you do first?
Ehhh i feel like writing a whole scenario
Well the first thing I'd do is get a 15k euro loan from a bank cuz I'm poor as fuck
The week before:
1st i wouldn't sleep in the perge day so I'd take advantage of the whole 24h. To do that I'll secretly go down to my local drug dealer and pay him 1.5k euro for the package which he would have received full of my month old orders that would be a good amount of 2 performance inhancing drugs like fenethylline(captagon), a drug that let's you stay awake for multiple days with super strength and anabolic steroids. Also get me some shrooms, lsd, weed, cocaïne, heroine, adrénaline shots, botulinum toxin(most powerful toxin known to man), puffer fish toxin(tetrodotoxin) and plant based toxin like good quality curare and of course antidotes for everything. When the purge is over I'll throw out whatever is left from all of these and say that i originally bought everything in the 24h no laws day
2nd I'd go buy 8k dollars worth of military grade titanium plates because it is very light and bullet proof.
3rd I'd find a good safe place to keep my parents and sister, they'd be busy and wanting to stay in our apartment so I'd barricade the windows and door with steel plates, build nail traps and put them infront of every entrance incase anyone somehow gets in, the first thing from they're body to touch the ground gets at least 2 or 3 nails through it. My sister might wanna experiment with some drugs so she would have had her own package that i ordered. Then. I'd also build and put remote controlled gun stands all around the building hidden in bushes and infront of our door and outside the window. The gun stands would of course have integrated live camera footage with 3k worth of small cameras. There'd be about 10 gun stands around the building and 5 around our apartment made from steel i got for free from slums
4th I'd build about 15 homemade bombs, 10 of which can be exploded individually with 1 remote and the other 5 are for my family and can each be exploded with their own remotes. With my bombs, put one hidden at the door of the house/appartement of the person i wanna kill first, a guy in my sisters school that raped a girl and got away with it. Then I'd place one hidden at the door of the house of a guy in my school who forced a girl to take nudes and showed them to his friends, a last bomb hidden inside of the local gunstore and I'll just keep the rest of the bombs
5th I'd build an iron man suit from the 8k € worth of titanium. I'd just download an iron man suit template like this one:
And instead of using cardboard use titanium. I'd also add a titanium backpack to the suit and put the bombs in it. I'd be building this after renting a work shop for 500€ and of course I'll add mechanical support to the Iron Man suit parts to be able to move easily. Then I'd paint it with black 2.0. A bottle of which would only cost 12€ and I'd be buying 3 bottles to cover the whole suit and extra stuff
Why cover the suit with black 2.0?
Well black 2.0 is the darkest paint on the market, not the darkest paint but the darkest paint that can be bought. It will almost turn a 3D object into a 2D one by making the curves on it all disappear like this:
So when i stand infront of any wall with the iron-man suit I'd just look like graffiti done with black paint:
It would be a great disguise and also an iron man with a back pack full of guns on his back and 2 machine guns in both hands all painted black running at you full speed will surely have you shitting your pants, if you are 1 person, 2, 3 or a whole fucking mafia.
George Carlins scenario
"I always hope that no matter how small the original problem is it's gonna grow into bigger and bigger proportions until the whole thing gets completely out of control. Here's an example. Let's say a water main breaks in downtown Los Angeles. Then it floods an electrical substation, knocking out all the traffic lights, and tying up the entire city. And then emergency vehicles can't get through. And at the same time, one of those month-long global warming heatwaves comes along, but there's no air conditioning, there's no water for sanitation, so cholera, smallpox and dysentery break out and thousands of people start dying in the streets. But before they die, parasites eat their brains and they go completely fucking crazy and they storm the hospital. But the hospital can't handle all the casualties, so these people rape all the nurses and set the hospital on fire. And the flames drive them even crazier so they start stabbing social workers and garbage men. And a big wind comes along and the entire city goes up in flames and the people who are still healthy, they get mad at the sick people, and they start crucifying them, nailing them to crosses, trying on their underwear, shit like that. Then everyone smokes crack and PCP and they march on City Hall, where they burn the mayor at the stake, strangle his wife and take turns sodomising the statue of Larry Flint. And at this point, it looks like pretty soon, things are gonna start to get out of control.
So everyone panics and tries to leave the city at the same time, and they trample each other to death in the streets by the thousands, and wild dogs eat their corpses, and the wild dogs chase the rest of the people down the highway and one by one the dogs pick off the old fucks and the slow people because they're in the fast lane where they don't belong. Get the fuck out of the fast lane if you're an old fuck, if you're a slow fuck. Get over on the right! And then the lucky ones, the lucky people who manage to make it all the way outside of town, they discover when they get there that big sparks from the city have lit the suburbs on fire, and the suburbs burn uncontrollably, and thousands of identical houses have identical fires with identical smoke. Killing all the identical soccer mums with their identical kids named Jason and Jennifer. And now the fire spreads to the farmlands and the farmlands burn intensely at 425 degrees creating millions of baked potatoes. And as the farmlands burn thousands of barns and farmhouses begin to explode from all the hidden methamphetamine labs. And the meth chemicals run downhill into the rivers and streams where wild animals drink the water and get completely geeked on speed. So bears and wolves all hemped up on crack start roaming the countryside looking for people to eat – even though they're not really hungry. And the fire spreads to the forests and the forests burn furiously and hundreds of elves and trolls and fairies come running out of the woods screaming "Bambi is dead! Bambi is dead!" and he is, he is, finally that fucking little cunt Bambi is dead. Dead!
Now hundreds of regional fires come together into one huge interstate inferno, and all twelve of the western United States are burning out of control – except Utah, where the Mormons don't allow fires. And then the fire spreads across the Great Plains, toasting the wheat, cooking the cattle and producing…hamburgers, actually. Then it leaps to Mississippi and races through the south, blowing up stills and interrupting lynchings and killing millions of inbred people. And then it turns northeast and it heads for Washington, D.C. where George Bush can't decide whether its an emergency or not. Oh it's hard work. He can't decide because Dick Cheney is in prison. So instead he takes a nap. He takes a nap, he puts his empty fucking brainless head down on the little pillow his mother gave him at Christmas time and he takes a fucking nap. So the fire moves to Philadelphia, but it's a weekend and Philadelphia's closed on the weekend. So the fire moves to New York City and the people in New York City tell the fire to GO FUCK ITSELF. GO FUCK ITSELF.
And it does. So instead it burns down Long Island and Connecticut, killing all the rich white arseholes and completely destroying their evil faggoty golf courses. And while all this is going on, Canada burns to the ground but nobody notices. And now the entire North American continent is on fire, producing a huge thermal updraft and creating an incendiary cyclonic macro-system that forms a hemispheric mega-storm, breaking down the molecular structure of the atmosphere and actually changing the laws of nature. Fire and water combine, burning clouds of flaming rain fall upward. Gamma rays and solar winds ignite the ionosphere creating huge clouds of ionised plasma. Bolts of lightning 20 million miles long begin shooting out of the North Pole and…the sky fills up with green ****. And then suddenly the entire fabric of space time splits in two. A huge crack in the universe opens. And all the dead people from the past begin falling through. Babe Ruth, Groucho Marx, Davy Crockett, Tiny Tim, Porky Pig, Hitler, Janis Joplin, Alan Ludden, my uncle Dave, your uncle Dave, everybody's uncle Dave, an endless stream of dead uncle Dave's falling through the crack.
And all the dead uncle Dave's gather around the heavenly kitchen table. They light up cigarettes and they begin to talk. They talk about how they never got a break. How their parents didn't love them and their children weren't grateful. They talk about how the government screwed them out of money and they JUST missed out on a big job. They say the Jews own everything and the Blacks get special treatment. And all the hatred and bitterness drips out of these people and forms a big pool of liquid hate. And the pool of liquid hate begins to spin. Round and round it spins, faster and faster. And the faster it spins, the bigger it gets, faster and faster, bigger and bigger, until the whirling pool of hate is bigger than the entire universe and then suddenly it EXPLODES into trillions of tiny stars. And every star has a trillion planets. And every planet has a trillion uncle Dave's. And all the uncle Dave's have good jobs and perfect eyesight and shoes that fit. They have great sex lives and free health care. They understand the internet and their kids think they're cool. And they all love their neighbours. And every week, without fail , uncle Dave wins the lottery. Forever and ever, until the end of time, every single uncle Dave has a winning ticket. And uncle Dave is finally happy." - George Carlin
Whilst I'd be hoping for George Carlin's scenario to play out I'll just take things into my own hands
1st thing I'd do at 00:01 AM is take a captagon pill to turn superhuman, inject anabolic steroids and sniff cocaïne then hop into the iron man suit with a bomb, drug fuild backpack on my back and the bomb remote. Go to the gunstore and check if anybody has broken in yet, if the store is empty I'll just detonate the bomb to break in, take some bags from behind the counter, fill them with guns for the gun stands and my family, fill my own backpack with handguns, a sniper, lots of ammunition and put 2 machine guns in my hands. If somebody broke in I'd first approach them nicely to see if they want the guns for self defence or to kill people, if they want them for self defence i will let them take what they need and do the same as if no one broke in but if they are violent i will detonate the bomb which would kill them and leave the guns unharmed and then I'd get my shit. Now that i got everything I'll paint it with black 2.0
2nd I'd run home, set up the guns on the gun stands and give the guns to my parents, put all 5 bombs around the building in the gun stand cameras line of sight, give the remotes to my family and sister then proceed to have fun outside.
3rd Now it'd be around 3AM in the morning so I'd go to the rapists house and check if he's all alone. Of course he wouldn't be so I'd detonate the bomb to breake in which forces all of the family to wake up then force the rapist to rape one of his family members then shoot him mid act and proceed to the next thing. Then steal their house's kyes and make them legally sign it as mine
4th I'd detonate the bomb at the house of the kid in my school so i can break into his house then I'd break both his legs with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu leg locks and take naked pics of him and send it to the girl that was his victim and all her friends. Then steal their house's kyes and make them legally sign it as mine
5th now that it's 6AM I'd go steal/hijack a private jet and put someone i trust to fly it. Get on it and take some LSD that'll last for like 30 min and just look at the sky
6th I'd inject some adrenaline to wake up, go around with the plane and find people like @Depressed-Salad who are just killing innocent people
@ragnar kill basically everyone from my school,
rob a bubble tea stand (THOSE BOBA PEARLS WILL BE MINE)
and of course get a shit tonne of tech stuff from tech stores.
Then according to how much they've done proceed to use either guns to shoot them down, botulinum toxin injection to painfully kill them, impale them
or just a mix of tetrodotoxin and curare to paralyse them but have them still be fully able to feel pain then start to horribly torture them like skinning, rape, slowly cutting off fingers, hands, genitalia and if they are about to pass out inject them with adrenaline to force them to stay awake and continue that until they are dead or even worse leave them horribly disfigured 😀
7th now that 10 hours have past of me doing just that and it's around 5PM I'll just get all the dead bodies of the killers i killed and the killer's victims, cut off their skin and make atleast 4 funny hats, decapitate the heads of the killers, put all the 400+ bodies in a meat grinder found somewhere, drain all their blood and take the blood that was already drained, fill up at least 100 gallons worth, find the nearest chemistry lab and use all the iron in their blood to make a long swored, melt off the flesh from the heads i decapitated with hydrochloric acid to only have skulls then head home with the jet.
8th now that it's around 10PM and I'm home I'll give my parents the funny hats as gifts. Take antidotes to all the drugs i had already taken then zone out after taking drugs again with my friends and my sister whilst listening to Nirvana and $UICIDEBOY$ and watching trippie Hot Sugar music videos hopefully forgetting everything that I'd done because of the amount of drugs i had taken
And the next day after going to sleep I'll make a throne from all the skulls and put the long sword sticking vertically in a newly bought scheide right behind the throne
OH RIGHT. I will also make all the killers sign all their houses to me along with the 2 houses that already got signed to me and become a realestate investor and international land owner then use the money i make to first pay off the 15k loan i took at the beginning of this text.
1 thing you love and 1 thing you hate about where you live
@mbs-guy Nah you are missing it by couple of hundred miles.
What is your height ??
I am one thousand three hundred and fifty four meters tall
Is god real? Your thoughts
I'm too tired of this topic so I'll just link you to the hundreds of previous conversations i had. One second