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    @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    Yes there's also secular morality but it's not the one we're talking about in this case. The US is 80% religious. The burrow was full of religious people

    This is also a fallacy. You are just generalizing people and showing unrelated data to make it easier to attack.

    No it is a strong argument

    Let us assume that US population was 80% religious back then but does it mean that the doctors and professors that supported it were religious; No

    The scientists are 60% religious. The doctors are just dumbasses and in any case I wasn't talking about the doctors but on the bewrrow of ethics which is definitely basing their conclusion on the idea that an embryo is a human person and should be researched upon which is a religious view and the only one that was ever used against stem cell research along with the others that say all stem stem cells even pre-emryonic are not to be researched upon which is also a religious one


  • @thestrangest No, he said that religious reasons were one of the reasons along with ethical concerns of scientist and the concern of parents. Note that, he mentioned the ethical concerns first, usually, it is due to having a higher priority which is also supported by the article I cited.

    btw ethics =/= religion

    an ethicist

    ethicist, not someone religious


  • @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest No, he said that religious reasons were one of the reasons along with ethical concerns of scientist and the concern of parents. Note that, he mentioned the ethical concerns first, usually, it is due to having a higher priority which is also supported by the article I cited.

    btw ethics =/= religion

    an ethicist

    ethicist, not someone religious

    FORGET THAT look at what he said next


  • @thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    The answer to the first question for a religious person is yes and for an atheist no

    I can't find this statement in the article.


  • @sir-devil and the following statement uses the word 'Ethicist".

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    @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    The answer to the first question for a religious person is yes and for an atheist no

    I can't find this statement in the article.

    Watch this video i already sent you:

    That's the 4th(out of 4) horsemen of neo-atheism. A PhD in neurology and Bachlors in philosophy


  • @thestrangest

    which is definitely basing their conclusion on the idea that an embryo is a human person and should be researched upon which is a religious view

    No, not at all. Why is it religious? There wasn't a widespread knowledge about it back then. There assumed it was a life because they didn't know.

    Regarding the first question, he said, one scientist

    note that it says, one scientist. It shows that it wasn't a widespread knowledge and something that was found recently.


  • @thestrangest just to see what it got. I'm going to watch it

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    @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest

    which is definitely basing their conclusion on the idea that an embryo is a human person and should be researched upon which is a religious view

    No, not at all. Why is it religious? There wasn't a widespread knowledge about it back then. There assumed it was a life because they didn't know.

    Regarding the first question, he said, one scientist

    note that it says, one scientist. It shows that it wasn't a widespread knowledge and something that was found recently.

    THE VIDEO I JUST MENTIONED WAS MADE BEFORE THE BAN WAS LIFTED. BY A SCIENTIST. THE GUY SPEAKING IS A SCIENTIST


  • @thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    Watch this video i already sent you:

    That's the 4th(out of 4) horsemen of neo-atheism. A PhD in neurology and Bachlors in philosophy

    Btw, this has no relevance in here. We are talking about Bush's speech and the reason he bans the funds.


  • @thestrangest

    THE VIDEO I JUST MENTIONED WAS MADE BEFORE THE BAN WAS LIFTED. BY A SCIENTIST. THE GUY SPEAKING IS A SCIENTIST

    Not when, the ban was implemented, right? So, no relevance.


  • @thestrangest What he says is true? But why shows it as an evidence that Bush banned it due to religious reasons when it was made years after the bush's speech.


  • @sir-devil If you are not showing it as a evidence, then why to show it at all, you are just sidetracking the argument.


  • @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest What he says is true? But why shows it as an evidence that Bush banned it due to religious reasons when it was made years after the bush's speech.

    Because nothing changed in ideologies of both sides from this speach and the Bush one. DUH


  • @sir-devil the scientist in the video describes the ideologies of both sides



  • @thestrangest You can't use the ideologies discussed in his speech as an argument that Bush banned it due to religious reason,


  • @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest What he says is true? But why shows it as an evidence that Bush banned it due to religious reasons when it was made years after the bush's speech.

    Lol no. The speech of G. Bush was in 2001 and this one in 2006


  • @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest You can't use the ideologies discussed in his speech as an argument that Bush banned it due to religious reason,

    Oh but i can


  • @thestrangest Of course, you can but I would call it illogical.