Godbless everyone

[Sir Devil]

@thestrangest

First things, first. Congratulation on the Internship. Next, if you are indeed tired, you don't have to reply to this text. You could reply when you are capable of. Thirdly, You can't just argue against my arguments and also, say that I am not going to read any of it. It makes you look bad...

In old times monks used to protect temples like soldures or should i say AS soldures

Let me give you the definition of soldiers, "a person who serves in an army." Did they serve in an army? No, then they are not soldiers.

We can say they were. They worked under a leader and fought in war
No, we can't. Echo the definition.

Okay, for starters, before the Sengoku era (~15th century), Ninjas, as we call it now, were a group of peasants who took to the arms, usually after being fed up with their Shogun. Hence, they were nothing but an angry peasant who did not make much of the impact. This is evident due to lack of documents of them since they were consisted of low-class people and did not have much impact in the feudal Japan. Hence, the High-class Aristocrats and Historians did not even bother enough to write about them.
It is only during the Sengoku period that people started to record their fighting style. We vaguely and collectively call it "Ninjutsu". It is also during this period that Mercenaries who were taught in this started to emerge. Since the way they fought was covert but at the same time dishonorable, many Shogunates hired them to do their dirty work.
Since they were hired and not served, they could not be considered as a Soldier. They also did not give two shits about the emperor. Actually, when I think about it, nobody gave two shits about the emperor. He was just a figurehead for the most part of the history. Also, they were dishonorable. Hence, no shogun would have the guts to openly admit that they hired Ninjas.
Now coming back to the point, they didn't care about their emperor. They just killed for the money and since they did not have a code of honor, most just killed anybody, including women and Children. There are documents depicting the ninja's killing numerous innocents, just because they were paid for. Now if this is not savage. I don't what is.

You said nation.
Sure but groups of people that can vaguemy be called nations live there from time to time.

Okay, I used the term "Nation" at the start of the Chain. So, let's go with it. The defenition of Nation is, "Nations are culturally homogeneous groups of people, larger than a single tribe or community, which share a common language, institution, religion and historical experience." Notice that they says, "larger than a single tribe"

live there from time to time

I literally said that they were nomadic. Hence they didn't "live there from time to time"

know it's hard as fuck to disprove a negative like this one.

then why the fuck did you argue against it by saying "but then again, there probably were"? You brought this question upon yourself.

No. In christian mythology god, yahweh is repeatidly described as all-wise, omnipotent...

I was just throwing a bunch of What if questions.
This is exactly why I said that you are not able to read between the lines and understand the context. I had to even change up the order of the statements so that the reply would go like a flowchart and thus, making it easy for you. This also shows that you did not argue as a whole but against each breakdown of a statement, which is a bad way to argue.

The point is we don't know. There's no evidence for that either way.

I see that you have conveniently ignored this statement. I wrote this statement for an important reason. It just basically states the purpose of me writing those what if question. By ignoring this statement, you were able to argue against those individuals what if questions.

JIGGA. CIRCOMSISION IS GENITAL MUTILATION

Oh, okay. I was initially thinking something entirely different.
Now getting back to this, The Bible never said that Circumcision was an absolute necessity. What it did says it that God told Abraham to circumcise himself, his household and all his animals. But the tricky part, here is that it is said to come from Moses himself and there are records showing that his son was not circumcised. And every single Christian was freed from these laws in the Book of Acts and that is why, Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant churches never adopted circumcision.

Here's a site that compiles all of those, http://www.cirp.org/pages/cultural/glass2/.
Although it is bit religious, you would get the point in the first few paragraph.

I'm tited of this conversation. Ok man let's say the bible does not comment on the shape of the earth

sigh If you are going to say this, why oppose it twice before. It just seems unnecessary. Why are so predisposed to argue against each breakdown of my argument? And no, I didn't decide that they were meant to be taken metaphorically. Historians Did.

Btw, did you even go to that wiki page? It's a common wiki page available to edit by anyone. It says right there that medieval flat earth theory was nothing but a modern-day misconception with quite a few citations. If you did and still said that it said that Earth is flat, facepalm Sad...sad indeed.

we know that people and the apostels back then did not know where the sun went at night.

I don't know what you are talking about. Citation needed.

u just admitted there were truces. I rest my case. The lenght of the truces do not matter for the argument

I admit that there was a truce and the length of the truce do matter for the argument. If it does not last for a significant amount of time, it has no purpose. What is usually the ideal situation for a truce? Most of the time, truces were after significant losses on both sides in a war. That means that it was already a violent situation.

Of course, I would wholeheartedly support that truces were indeed extremely useful in BCE, if you a give a small list of times where truces held in BCE were indeed effective.

Nice try, ignoring the last sentence. (The reason why truces weren't effective, as I mentioned earlier would be the lack of any governing forces (like the UN) watching over those countries and maintain the peace.)

First sex ed classes are normally at 12 y.o.

No, no, no, no. You can't do that. I specifically said, "again". That means that I was repeating the previous request, where I asked you to provide some evidence, that 7-12 year children all around the world, knew about "The Meaning of Life". I repeat "The Meaning of Life" not how to create life. There's a difference.

You previously said that we have all figured about the meaning of life. But I see that there are philosophers discussing it in the modern era. I think, you were thinking about "What is Life?" and not about "The Meaning of Life". There's a subtle difference between them.

Dude. Please im tired ok

Why? Just Why? If you are indeed tired, why are you replying now? You could have taken rest and had more time to collect your thoughts. Why argue now and say that you are tired? It's not like I'm forcing you to reply within a time limit. You usually take about ~2 days to reply anyway.

[TheStrangest]

@sir-devil dude look. This convo has strained away from anything i was originally talking about. I want to end it. I wanna leave it alone. Wanna have the last word?

[Sir Devil]

@thestrangest I just wanted to ask you why to argue with my reply and also say a message like that. It could have been something just like this.

So...If you want to end it, let's end it. It's been fun.

[TheStrangest]

@sir-devil said in Godbless everyone:

@thestrangest I just wanted to ask you why to argue with my reply and also say a message like that. It could have been something just like this.

So...If you want to end it, let's end it. It's been fun.

I wanted to argue with your reply but got too tired half way through. Making a counter argument for one of your replies takes me a minimum of 20 min. I didn't even read your last text as a whole. Just the part where you congratulate me and tell me that i don't have tp reply to you

[GirlNextDoor]

@sir-devil amazing reply sir devil. Hats off to your research and knowledge

[TheStrangest]

@girlnextdoor said in Godbless everyone:

@sir-devil amazing reply sir devil. Hats off to your research and knowledge

I have to agree. Usually it's easy AF to counter peoples arguments but he's smart and argues stratigically

[Sir Devil]

@girlnextdoor Well, I can't argue with him without a proper strategy or research. Beleive me, I once had. I have to say that it was hard for me. I took my time to better myself with this.

[GirlNextDoor]

@thestrangest I like both your debates ... They help me discovers things I never thought about

[TheStrangest]

@sir-devil you were good man. It is just that it strained off topic. Now we were just arguing about if the people in the old testament are "uneducated desert savages" and i think you are very strongly defending the point of view that they are not but the only reason i said that they were is because you used "in their defence..." when talking about the justification of slavery in the old testament and i probable wrongly said "stop defending uneducated desert savages". I know you were not defending skavery but i wanted to say that no matter how normal it was that they supported (NOT ONLY DIPICTED) slavery in the bible an all moral god would have forbidden slavery in the bible therefore this poses a problem for the suggestion that god is all-moral but i guess you would agree with that so i want to end this because i said, countering one of your comments takes me a minimum of 20 min and i am busy more over this was not what i was originally trying to argue about. I'm sorry, i hope you understand. Thank you for this, it was very fun and informative

[Sir Devil]

@thestrangest Okay. I can understand. It's been taking a lot of my time too. It usually takes me 30-45 to write a reply but the last one took wayyy too long (almost twice the usual). I usually research something before I assert in the conversation so that I would be ready with a citation in case it is needed and so, that I would know what I'm talking about. So, I have to say that this was indeed informative. I learned a lot more about the bible, Feudal Japan, Inuits, etc.

[TheStrangest]

@sir-devil cool. Thanks and bye bye. Till next time